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chrisabela
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19/01/2006 : 21:14:40
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This is very good news. My Gull Spirit is called "Aurora" after a ship in one of Herge's Tin Tin books (I'm a huge fan). Hope to see you at some cruising or racing events, see www.gulldinghy.org.uk
I have not seen the Calypso yet but I'm sure it is every bit as good as the Spirit. If you would like to do a review or send a photo for the website let me know. chrisabela@hotmail.co.uk
Happy Sailing.
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wallacebob
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Posted - 25/01/2006 : 16:29:03
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I have struggled to find a number for my ancient Gull - no number on sail, due to conversion to Bermuda rig I presume, and no number visible on transom.
Whilst stripping paint from stern I have uncovered two names which I hope some old owner may recognise - "SOWENA" on port side, and "ILIAN" OR "GILIAN" on starboard. Anyone remember these?
On another subject - I will be varnishing and repainting after a complete strip (the Gull, not me!). I fancy Cherry Red hull and Off White interior, with decks, transom, thwart, gunwhales, etc varnished. What about your Gull? Was there a standard scheme when they were first built?
Excellent to have the website and a point of discussion for all of us. Well done!
ps I used to be BHEART, but forgot all my login info- Doh!
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wallacebob
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Posted - 26/01/2006 : 11:11:51
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POSTED ON BEHALF OF TONY:lost his password too.
I have a members list for Gulls up to about 1968 build, with 350 boats listed but all are not named, just sail numbers and owners. Nothing listed called Sowene of Gilian or near I'm afraid.
Could you please post a note to Cliff to say that I have a history of Gulls by Ian Procter and they were first marketed in January 1957 having been designed and the prototype built in 1956.
regards
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tahoeblue
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/01/2006 : 16:33:58
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Originally posted by KEVIN ROBINSON
Very interested in all your coments about Wooden Gulls,
I am considering the purchase of one from boatsandoutboards.co.uk ref No. F79409 - sail No. 1065.
Looks in good condition, but unable to ascertain the age of the boat. Can any one advise on the following:
How safe is the boat say with 1 adault + 2 kids, for general sailing/rowing/ possible fishing off, within costal shoreline, attaching an outboard say something in the region of 2-5hp,
Would the boat take 1 adault + 2 kids safely.
Kevin Robinson
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tahoeblue
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/01/2006 : 17:13:22
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Hi...
Many years ago I owned what I beleived to be the last wooden Gull manufactured by Small Craft - it was immaculate. The tan sails and yellow hull looked superb and we were always being asked....what is it ?
In answer to some of your questions, its fine with 2 adults and 2 children with an outboard. I used a 5hp Yamaha, but that is really too heavy and powerful....on full throttle the back of the dinghy looked as though it might part company! Never managed to get the Gull to plane (!!)
Had lots of fun off the coast of Amroth, my first time out with in the dinghy with a friend doing a little fishing. I originally had an old air-cooled outboard and on the way back in it stopped. I tried to be as prepared as possible (have lots of friends who have survived horrendous "adventures" at sea) so out came the toolbox, but I simply could not remove the spark plug. So, out came the oars, should not be a problem to row back in, after a couple of pulls "crack"....we had been supplied with plastic rollocks and they snapped.
Hmm.....what now, the tide had now turned...the wrong way!
OK..we both had proper full lifejackets in bright orange and there was a boat not too far away, we started waving and shouting and it looked as though they had seen us, but,no sign of coming over to us.
So, there was nothing for it but to take out the flares - a smashing pair in pink denim from Carnaby Street! Well, we were seen in Saundersfoot and the coast guard sent out a guy in a rather large speedboat - no kidding, he had a Rover V8 in the back, sounded better than a TVR. We had a very wet tow into Saundersfoot to do the paperwork and then he took us back to the beach at Amroth. "Had a good time" aked my wife as she came to meet us! We were both seriously cold, constant bow spray even on a sunny day is awful!
Also sailed and motored in and around Salcombe (first time out ever sailing in salt water by myself, the the rivet snapped that fastens the mast to the little bracket that the kicking strap fits onto - that was fun!), Weymouth (embarrassingly discovered there is a sand bar off the beach there)Christchurch and Salcombe.
At sea, always be over prepared, if you take the attitude that everything will always f _ _ _ up, then you will probably be OK!
We also used to take it on the Oxford canal, with 3 adults and 2 children.
The layout is excellent although I found it quite difficult to set off equipped with both sailing and outboarding in mind, but then the 5hp was quite a large engine.
Also used to go for picnics on the river at Stratford - sone a little older then, when they disappeared round the bend after dropping us off, you could hear the engine open up!!
Sorry if this rambled on a bit.
Cheers,
Dave.
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tahoeblue
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/01/2006 : 17:20:18
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Actually, the reason I found this site is because I have some plans of the Gull dinghy that I wish to sell.
There are 2 sheets (presumably workshop copies) by Ian Proctor and were used when the dinghy was manufactured at Small Craft:
Sheet 5 is titled GUNTER SLOOP SAIL PLAN dated Jan 1957
Sheet 3 is titled SPARS AND RIGGING dated Nov 1956 (have 2 of these)
The third sheet is titled Small Craft of Southampton Ltd - Bermuda rig for Gull - Mast details - 12 June 63
Anyone interested in making an offer, I could e-mail you pics if required.
Regards,
Dave.
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tahoeblue
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/01/2006 : 17:27:14
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Sorry............its me again
My Gull was called Madrugada (I think thats how to spell it)
Anyone know where it is now?
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memor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/01/2006 : 23:15:14
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I just bought one also. Man delivered it this morning. It freezing cold. Unfortunatly rudder have big rack on top so man have to take away which really was good coz I felt a bit under pressure to have a sail and try her out. So big sigh of relief when I couldn't.
She look really nice. I still have old type Gull with watertight compartments in prow. It be interesting to feel difference.
Calypso 's got a neat reefing system.
bestest regards
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janeysailor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/02/2006 : 13:29:18
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Mine's called Why Not, because all my sailing companions kept asking me why I bought a Gull to play about in as I already race a National 12. And I just kept answering "Why Not"!! so it stuck.
Janey |
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janeysailor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/02/2006 : 13:33:52
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I seem to have been experiencing trouble posting messages.....as in...I post but they don't appear!!! they are appearing on the "Dinghy Sailing Beginners" forum but not here, The only way I can get anything to appear on this one is to click "relpy" can anyone give me some assistance in posting please? Anyway enough waffle... I have a Gull called "Why Not". I aquired her from a family friend who used her as a tender to her yacht!! She came gunter rigged and with no sails. I managed to get sails made for her and recently I converted her to a bermuda rig. The mast sits in a new metal mast gate on the thwart over the place where the original mast step is. However in a blow the mast tends to flex a fair bit. I'd really like to fly a spinnaker but I dont know if she'll cope!! Any suggestions? BTW the sail number is 1457, I'd be grateful if any one could fill me in as to her age and if possible history. I am pretty sure she was'nt new when my friend had her.
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wallacebob
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Posted - 02/02/2006 : 21:18:42
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Centreboard puzzle!!
I'm still in the middle of a big refurbish of the ancient Gull with no no no number. (I think I'll call her The Prisoner!)
I removed the centreboard to repair the casing and discovered a notch with two vertical screw holes, in the "top" of the centreboard (when fully down). The notch is 4" long and 1/2" deep, any ideas what was there? All I can think of is a handle to lift the centreboard out of the slot when afloat - but why would you do that when it pivots? And you could just hold onto the rubber bump stops anyhow.
Anyone got a clue?
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chrisabela
United Kingdom
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tony
United Kingdom
167 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2006 : 12:23:10
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Originally posted by wallacebob
Centreboard puzzle!!
I'm still in the middle of a big refurbish of the ancient Gull with no no no number. (I think I'll call her The Prisoner!)
I removed the centreboard to repair the casing and discovered a notch with two vertical screw holes, in the "top" of the centreboard (when fully down). The notch is 4" long and 1/2" deep, any ideas what was there? All I can think of is a handle to lift the centreboard out of the slot when afloat - but why would you do that when it pivots? And you could just hold onto the rubber bump stops anyhow.
Anyone got a clue?
Thanks , Bob.
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tony
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/02/2006 : 12:29:44
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Originally posted by tony
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Originally posted by wallacebob
Centreboard puzzle!!
I'm still in the middle of a big refurbish of the ancient Gull with no no no number. (I think I'll call her The Prisoner!)
I removed the centreboard to repair the casing and discovered a notch with two vertical screw holes, in the "top" of the centreboard (when fully down). The notch is 4" long and 1/2" deep, any ideas what was there? All I can think of is a handle to lift the centreboard out of the slot when afloat - but why would you do that when it pivots? And you could just hold onto the rubber bump stops anyhow.
Anyone got a clue?
Thanks , Bob.
The notch is to house a short piece of rubber hose which acts as a brake to keep the centreboard still. The two screws hold a strip of alloy which compresses the hose, providing adjustment for the required friction. Into end grain, the screws soon lose grip, but a plastic plug is a cure, or more sophisticated solution is an alloy channel with captive nuts fitted into the slot and with the hose and strip bolted through, providing very easy adjustment for ever.
Tony
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janeysailor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/02/2006 : 12:25:18
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Originally posted by tony
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Originally posted by tony
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Originally posted by wallacebob
Centreboard puzzle!!
I'm still in the middle of a big refurbish of the ancient Gull with no no no number. (I think I'll call her The Prisoner!)
I removed the centreboard to repair the casing and discovered a notch with two vertical screw holes, in the "top" of the centreboard (when fully down). The notch is 4" long and 1/2" deep, any ideas what was there? All I can think of is a handle to lift the centreboard out of the slot when afloat - but why would you do that when it pivots? And you could just hold onto the rubber bump stops anyhow.
Anyone got a clue?
Thanks , Bob.
The notch is to house a short piece of rubber hose which acts as a brake to keep the centreboard still. The two screws hold a strip of alloy which compresses the hose, providing adjustment for the required friction. Into end grain, the screws soon lose grip, but a plastic plug is a cure, or more sophisticated solution is an alloy channel with captive nuts fitted into the slot and with the hose and strip bolted through, providing very easy adjustment for ever.
Tony
Tony
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