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janeysailor
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 11/02/2006 : 12:28:16
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| Aha that's what it's for!! I use a piece of bungee looped over a stop on the centreboard casing, to hold the centreboard in place, only one problem though, you can have the board in one of two positions...either up or down!!! Having read your post I will try and adapt mine so at least it's adjusable. |
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tony
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/02/2006 : 16:05:25
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Holding the centreboard down is not too good an idea. Many situations need a part centrboard. Also if you hit something underwater, the board needs to rise to clear it and wait for you to adjust afterwards.
GOOD SAILING!
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wallacebob
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Posted - 12/02/2006 : 18:45:36
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Thanks Tony, I can see how that is a good solution. I will fit that before completion. My centreboard is a good fit, so I hadn't had a problem with movement.
When I learnt to sail, the club GP centre board was held in position with wedges, which we lost very quickly on the first Wet capsize! Then the rubber bump stops came off, the board dropped into the slot and jammed - so we had the board fully up all the time....great fun on your second day sailing!!! Teaches you to fix things on the fly though.
On the same subject - as I have the Gull in the garage up side down, and can see things one doesn't normally see...hopefully. The centre board front edge has a pronounced angle to stern. I assume this is to reduce drag, but other centre or dagger boards I have seen are almost at 90 degress to hull when fully down. Any comments anyone? |
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tony
United Kingdom
167 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2006 : 10:39:50
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Hi Wallacebob the Gull centreboard is angled backwards at about 15 degrees when fully down. I am not sure why, but maybe to encourage it to retract upwards when meeting an underwater obstruction rather than shear off, since the fulcrum is pretty low down ... anyway it certainly works!
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chrisabela
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/02/2006 : 19:48:58
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There are now some pics of the Gull "Calypso" on the website and it seems to have central main sheeting but it is a bit hard to tell from the pics. I shall try to get some better pics at the Dinghy show.
Chris
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RobM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2006 : 21:06:17
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Hi again,
My project is now ready to start. I collected the Gull e few eeks ago and she's been drying out in the garage prior to stripping. he seems pretty solid mostly although there is a bit of damage near the stem, and the top of the stem is rotten, but is solid further down.
Fore deck needs replacing, and I think Robins of Bristol do a good mahogany ply. I'll replace the aft boyancy box with similar I think. Salis are in good order except for a little mouse damage. A 6" patch should sort this out. Mast, boom and gaff all sound and true.
The sail number is 40.
If any of the other guys out there renovating wooden Gulls have advice for a complete novice can you get back either here or direct? Thanks..
Happy sailing to you all.
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cliff
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/02/2006 : 13:48:33
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Gull Calypso is available either centre or transom main sheet. It's about £180 dearer for centre main. Our eagerly awaited new Gull is transom main because I prefer it that way despite being taught on a Topaz. I just can't get the hang of steering with the tiller extension behind me.As soon as we collect Gulliver, I'll send some photos.
Regards to all,
Cliff & Jillquote:
Originally posted by chrisabela
There are now some pics of the Gull "Calypso" on the website and it seems to have central main sheeting but it is a bit hard to tell from the pics. I shall try to get some better pics at the Dinghy show.
Chris
www.gulldinghy.org.uk
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chrisabela
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/02/2006 : 17:55:04
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I'm glad to hear that you have the choice as I doubt that I would get on with centre main. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the new boat and I think that Porters seem to have done a good job.
I'm also looking forward to seeing your pics and I will be taking some at the dinghy show this weekend as Porter's are taking one up.
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chrisabela
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2006 : 18:59:09
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Greatings all,
There have been plenty of updates on the web site including some new articles, a post Dinghy Show review of the Gull Calypso and news of the June 06 cruise of the Norfolk Broads. Please come along and support this event if you can. There will be a safety boat in attendance for those new to sailing and it should be a great way of meeting other Gull sailors for those of you who are not into racing.
See the website for details.
Thanks,
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h.m.evans
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Posted - 19/03/2006 : 18:46:58
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Hi, I'm pretty sure that the notch held a small length of corrugated rubber hose, cut down its length and flattened out to sit in the notch with the cut edges overlapping the sides, to make a friction brake between the board and case. The screw holes held the hose in place. Without a friction device of some kind, the c'board has a habit of floating back to the "up" position.
Martyn Evans (Gull 361, "Sophie")
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Originally posted by wallacebob
Centreboard puzzle!!
I'm still in the middle of a big refurbish of the ancient Gull with no no no number. (I think I'll call her The Prisoner!)
I removed the centreboard to repair the casing and discovered a notch with two vertical screw holes, in the "top" of the centreboard (when fully down). The notch is 4" long and 1/2" deep, any ideas what was there? All I can think of is a handle to lift the centreboard out of the slot when afloat - but why would you do that when it pivots? And you could just hold onto the rubber bump stops anyhow.
Anyone got a clue?
Thanks , Bob.
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h.m.evans
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Posted - 19/03/2006 : 18:49:26
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Sorry all, been reading these all at once and replied before seeing the much fuller replies from Tony meanwhile.
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Originally posted by h.m.evans
Hi, I'm pretty sure that the notch held a small length of corrugated rubber hose, cut down its length and flattened out to sit in the notch with the cut edges overlapping the sides, to make a friction brake between the board and case. The screw holes held the hose in place. Without a friction device of some kind, the c'board has a habit of floating back to the "up" position.
Martyn Evans (Gull 361, "Sophie")
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Originally posted by wallacebob
Centreboard puzzle!!
I'm still in the middle of a big refurbish of the ancient Gull with no no no number. (I think I'll call her The Prisoner!)
I removed the centreboard to repair the casing and discovered a notch with two vertical screw holes, in the "top" of the centreboard (when fully down). The notch is 4" long and 1/2" deep, any ideas what was there? All I can think of is a handle to lift the centreboard out of the slot when afloat - but why would you do that when it pivots? And you could just hold onto the rubber bump stops anyhow.
Anyone got a clue?
Thanks , Bob.
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memor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/04/2006 : 16:56:31
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Been trying out new Gull Calypso.Brilliant..... but
tacking there was funny noise thought it was forestays or shrouds but it is centreboard oscilating. Anyone know how I can stop this ?
It sound like an engine
bestest regards
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tony
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/04/2006 : 11:20:17
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quote:
Originally posted by memor
Been trying out new Gull Calypso.Brilliant..... but
tacking there was funny noise thought it was forestays or shrouds but it is centreboard oscilating. Anyone know how I can stop this ?
It sound like an engine
bestest regards
Memor
I have had centerboard vibration due to slight warp or twist in board.
If continuous, try raising board slightly ...until it stops .. then look at the previously submerged in the flow part causing the effect for signs of nicks, or other damage. Temporary relief may be to tighten centerboard bolt a touch.. good luck
tony
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memor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/04/2006 : 23:33:36
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Thanks Tony. Centreboard very tight so unloosened it Unfortunately no difference but have started to raise it a little and it has helped.
It new boat so shouldn't have nicks in it.
NEXT QUESTION.
Self bailer is useless. Spoke to Porters but they not have answer.
Bung hole is size of ten pence piece.
They say "if you full of water and want to get rid of it undo bung and as long as you are travelling water will dissapear down bunghole."
COBBERLERS
I try this, as soon as I undo bung it look like I have water feature Charlie Dimmock would be proud of.
I looking for proper self bailer I can fit but not found anything (yet)anyone know of device I can fit to Dinghy that will do the job ??
bestest regards
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chrisabela
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/04/2006 : 19:11:37
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Perhaps this is a problem with the new GRP center board?
You will need to be travelling very fast to remove water in this way, I have self bailers in my Spirit and they work well as long as I am going fast but they will also leave some water in the bottom.
Make sure that Porters are aware of the problems as soon as possible so that the responsibilty is with them.
Good Luck.
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