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pohnpei1

1 Posts

Posted - 15/05/2006 :  01:44:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello.
I have been searching everywhere I can think of for a set of plans and other related information for a wood Gull dinghy. I have just read below that you have a single sheet of plans, which is one sheet more than I have. Any chance we could communicate about the Gull? Perhpas I could pay for copying, postage etc for a copy of your plans. I would be so grateful as I am very much interested in building a Gull as soon as possible.
Thankyou for taking the time to answer. I appreciate it!
Prof Howard Rice
prof_rice@yahoo.com

quote:
Originally posted by BHEART

I have recently bought an old Gull too. I have posted on CVRDA and Dinghy sailing forum for info. The association seems to have moved, if you have any luck let me know. Info is difficult to obtain, but I have a single sheet of the original plans, plus some articles from the DCA which a very kind Gull owner sent me. I can send copies if you like? It shows the gaff rig set up, although mine is bermuda rigged.I also need parts, such as aft mast stay support, but I can measure or photo anything for you.

Best regards.



Small boat sailor looking for plans for a wood Gull dinghy
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chrisabela

United Kingdom
317 Posts

Posted - 15/05/2006 :  19:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you tried contacting Gordon Williams class sec. His details are on the website - www.gulldinghy.org.uk

Good Luck.
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memor

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 17/05/2006 :  00:03:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Roger when I say self Bailer. I mean round hole that has a rubber bung in it.

This Porters Idea for a "self bailer."

When I queried how useless it was. The reaction was. "They are very interested in feedback and are surprised that it was innefective.

The idea of having two fitted either side is very good idea. Porters suggested I wasn't going fast enough. I pointed out that if I was I'd be heeled over and the water wouldn't be central to go down the little hole. This produced grunts and scratchy heads.

Best bet at moment is that sponge magnet that soaks up ten times its own weight in water. (mop heads)



bestest regards

Memor
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wallacebob

8 Posts

Posted - 17/05/2006 :  22:26:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Prof Howard - re: gull plans. I have only the side elevation, not much use without the rest. But I have scanned it, so can email to you if you wish?
Bob
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tony

United Kingdom
167 Posts

Posted - 20/05/2006 :  14:02:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pohnpei1

Hello.
I have been searching everywhere I can think of for a set of plans and other related information for a wood Gull dinghy. I have just read below that you have a single sheet of plans, which is one sheet more than I have. Any chance we could communicate about the Gull? Perhpas I could pay for copying, postage etc for a copy of your plans. I would be so grateful as I am very much interested in building a Gull as soon as possible.
Thankyou for taking the time to answer. I appreciate it!
Prof Howard Rice
prof_rice@yahoo.com

quote:
Originally posted by BHEART

I have recently bought an old Gull too. I have posted on CVRDA and Dinghy sailing forum for info. The association seems to have moved, if you have any luck let me know. Info is difficult to obtain, but I have a single sheet of the original plans, plus some articles from the DCA which a very kind Gull owner sent me. I can send copies if you like? It shows the gaff rig set up, although mine is bermuda rigged.I also need parts, such as aft mast stay support, but I can measure or photo anything for you.

Best regards.



Small boat sailor looking for plans for a wood Gull dinghy



Tony
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tony

United Kingdom
167 Posts

Posted - 20/05/2006 :  14:09:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still have the complete set of measurement and construction rules for Gulls ( eight pages) which I could copy to you if you are still looking. Buying a used boat would be infinitely easier .. there are many about and most are in good condition and easily restored. You can Email me
Tony

Tony
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Ann

10 Posts

Posted - 28/05/2006 :  20:37:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

AArh Mel

After fiddling about all winter, I finally rethreaded the jib today not going through the pulley, then I came on here to ask another question and there you were! Oh dear - well the furling gear always tangled the jib with the forestay but I might need it one day.... I was following advice from "old salts" or whatever the fresh water version is, who also want me to find out what the best measurement from the mast head to the transom. They think my mast is raked too far back. I'd love to hear any views on tuning up a spirit or racing with it.

best wishes
Ann


quote]Originally posted by Mel Shore

quote:
Originally posted by chrisabela

Hi Ann, glad you liked the site (still not finished!)

email me at chrisabela@hotmail.co.uk with your details and I'll send you a photocopied version of the handbook. Also, if you get your mast dead vertical then take it back a notch or two until you start to notice a slight bend near the top of the mast then you should find that the boat points to windward quite well.



www.gulldinghy.org.uk


I have Spirit 2672 built by Anglo Marine as I suspect Ann's boat was.
The little pulley at the top of the forestay is for the jib halyard and is to prevent the jib furling gear hitting the forestay. It also prevents the furled sail wrapping around the stay.
Above the jib halyard pulley inset into the mast is another inset pulley for the spinnaker halyard. My mast was supplied with red twine threaded through this higher pulley to the starboard side of the mast foot. Neville Towler told me what it was for and said take it out if I wasn't going to fly a kite.
Hope I haven't 'told granny how to suck eggs' as I have only just found this site.
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RobM

United Kingdom
8 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2006 :  07:54:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all,

Well my project is taking shape - that of a pear I think.

I've stripped off the top planks from the fram and it looks likely that new top frame members will be needed too. I'm building quite a shopping list. I've been keepin photos of each stage and if anyone's interested then mail me and I'll send.

Chris - I've been trying to mail you to see if you want a regular update for the website but my sev=rver won't let me for some reason. Can you mail me if you're interested in a complete renovation by a total beginner blog?

Doea anyone have any knowledge of which is the best epoxy to use? I've instructions from Wessex re the West system. DOes anyone have experience with this?

Have fun,
Rob, Northampton
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jonathans

United Kingdom
1 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2006 :  20:52:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
About 2 weeks ago I bought an early wooden Gull, sail number 315. The vendor had owned her for a year or so but had not sailed her, and I have no prevoius Gull experience so am really pleased to have found this forum and the website and have learnt a lot already.

Is there any way of finding out any of her history - date of manufacture, name (I can't see any sign of one), owners, etc?

She is gunter rigged with wooden spars and I tried rigging her on the trailer this weekend to work out how everything goes together. There were 2 slight hitches -
1. with the mast stepped in the aft position the forestay is not long enough, so presumably she's been used una-rigged. But a wooden cleat on the side of the mast gets in the way when I try to step the mast in the forward position, so I am confused.
2. the pulley at the mast head is damaged and jams, so I could not fully raise the mainsail - is replacement a simple enough job?

I was planning to change wheels and tryes on the, possibly homemade, trailer immediately as they look very old. However, it is not obvious how they come off with out dismantling the leaf spring suspension which I haven't tried yet (and i wouldn't fancy doing so at the roadside in the event of a flat). I am beginning to fear the best answer may be a new trailer, as I need need to cover some distance (from mid-Wales) in order to go sailing - but this is not something I'd budgeted for so, frustratingly, sailing may have to go on hold until I can afford one.

Best wishes

Jonathan
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RobM

United Kingdom
8 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2006 :  22:55:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've just read my last post. Apologies for the rubbish spelling

As my project moves on I'll need to buy some wood and ply. I've found Robbins' site but does anyone know any other sites/yards for marine timber?

I live in Northampton and Bristol is a fair trek for a bit of wood, but if I must then I would.

Hoping for a reply,

RobM

Have fun,
Rob, Northampton
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RobM

United Kingdom
8 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2006 :  23:40:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've just put a few images on my MySpace site. I set up a blog and I'll update it regularly with details of what's going on and probably other things too.

The picture on my profile was taken in the royals on Prince William, a TSYT tallship, in April '05. The gull isn't quite so tall!

Go to: http://blog.myspace.com/68846353


Have fun,
Rob, Northampton
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mikeosborne

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2008 :  09:51:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a wooden Gull No 357. Does anyone have the dimensions for the correct buoyancy bags for the side and fore and aft compartments?
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pgrzelinski

United Kingdom
67 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2008 :  14:22:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, I use plastic beach balls in the front and rear compartments as the access hatch means you can part inflate then push them in to finish off, depending on size it does not matter how much you inflate them, The only issue is if you have an eye in the prow, make sure the bolt on the inside doues not punture the ball. I have 3 balls in the rear compartment. Normally the front and rear compartments are water tight, you should have a drain hole in the rear one. The front one tends to leak when inverted on the joint between the top deck and verticle face, best to seal this internally and spray both compartments with bilge paint every few years. The side bags are Holt but my boat is not at home so I cannot give you the size, definately available as I replaced one last year.
Peter
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Roger

21 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2008 :  11:40:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a grp Mk1 Gull and after a capsize discovered that both the front and rear buoyancy compartments leaked! The boat also has buoyancy bags under the side and front thwarts. I like the beach ball idea but it was suggested to me (as a short-term measure)that I fill both compartments with polystyrene packing chips and this has worked OK. Make sure that you do not use the bio-degradeable chips as these will dissolve in water! Regards, Roger
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Alan Sharples

United Kingdom
1 Posts

Posted - 17/10/2009 :  10:48:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have the 'Sowena' hers in Scotland. It is a fine old boat but is in need of tlc. I hope to get it fixed, painted and sailing again by next year. If it proves too difficult to fix I will be sadly selling off the 'bits' and saying goodbye to it. But I hope it won't come to that. I am a new sailor and it has been great for just pottering around the local Loch.
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